---
title: "Episode 39: Give 10 Bad Talks All in a Row and Then Get Fired"
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published_at: "2018-12-05T07:00:00+00:00"
modified_at: "2026-08-20T05:34:04+00:00"
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About the Author Corey is the Chief Cloud Economist at Duckbill, where he specializes in helping companies improve their AWS bills by making them smaller and less horrifying. He also hosts the "Screaming in the Cloud" and "AWS Morning Brief" podcasts; and curates "Last Week in AWS," a weekly newsletter summarizing the latest in AWS news, blogs, and tools, sprinkled with snark and thoughtful analysis in roughly equal measure.

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## Episode Summary

Do you like to hear yourself talk? Especially while on a stage and in front of a lot of people? How do you come up with ideas to talk about? What process do you use to build a conference talk or presentation?   
 Today, we’re talking to Matty Stratton of PagerDuty. His job involves building conference talks and finding ways to continuously improve them. Public speaking can be intimidating, so he shares some tips and tricks that have worked for him.  
 Some of the highlights of the show include:  
  
 Avoid creating something brand new for every event  
 Don’t tell flattering stories about things that happened to you; may be uplifting, but doesn't resemble reality  
 Failure stories are fantastic because people relate to making terrible decisions  
 Everyone who gives a talk panics, gets nervous, and thinks they’re about a sentence away from stammering and falling off the stage; almost never happens  
 Audience wants you to succeed because they're there to learn; no one is hoping a presenter messes up  
 Preparation is key; could build a talk at the last minute, but it would be much better, if you prepared for it  
 Don’t intentionally try to think of something; have conversations with people and listen to other talks to develop anecdotes, stories, and cold opens  
 Humor can be tricky; what you think is funny, other people might not  
 Make things memorable; show good ideas by showing bad ideas - it’s the ‘don't do this, do this instead’ model  
 Submit early and often, but submit appropriately; if you are always submitting stuff that’s inappropriate for an event, your stuff starts to be ignored  
 Sometimes, you may want to avoid slides that auto advance; if you trip over yourself: Stop, repeat, back up, take questions, etc.  
 Try not to read from notes or slides; takes the life and engagement out of the talk  
 People can only do one thing at a time - listen or read  
 Practice: Record yourself every time you practice and watch it; focus on blocking and tackling  
 You have about 45 seconds to grab people's interest before they look at their phone; get them engaged via a story, picture, or anecdote  
  
 Links:  
  
 Matty Stratton’s Presentations  
 Matty Stratton on Twitter  
 PagerDuty  
 Arrested DevOps  
 Hot Takes, Myths, And Fake News—Why Everyone Is Wrong About DevOps, Except For Me  
 DevOps Dispatch  
 LastWeekinAWS  
 Jez Humble  
 Robert Rodriguez  
 Rebel Without A Crew  
 Adam Jacob from Chef  
 Terrible Ideas in Git  
 Azure DevOps  
 Emily Freeman  
 Decker Communications  
 Don't You Know Who I Am?!  
 Datadog

## Episode Show Notes & Transcript

Do you like to hear yourself talk? Especially while on a stage and in front of a lot of people? How do you come up with ideas to talk about? What process do you use to build a conference talk or presentation?

Today, we’re talking to Matty Stratton of PagerDuty. His job involves building conference talks and finding ways to continuously improve them. Public speaking can be intimidating, so he shares some tips and tricks that have worked for him.

**Some of the highlights of the show include:**

- Avoid creating something brand new for every event
- Don’t tell flattering stories about things that happened to you; may be uplifting, but doesn't resemble reality
- Failure stories are fantastic because people relate to making terrible decisions
- Everyone who gives a talk panics, gets nervous, and thinks they’re about a sentence away from stammering and falling off the stage; almost never happens
- Audience wants you to succeed because they're there to learn; no one is hoping a presenter messes up
- Preparation is key; could build a talk at the last minute, but it would be much better, if you prepared for it
- Don’t intentionally try to think of something; have conversations with people and listen to other talks to develop anecdotes, stories, and cold opens
- Humor can be tricky; what you think is funny, other people might not
- Make things memorable; show good ideas by showing bad ideas - it’s the ‘don't do this, do this instead’ model
- Submit early and often, but submit appropriately; if you are always submitting stuff that’s inappropriate for an event, your stuff starts to be ignored
- Sometimes, you may want to avoid slides that auto advance; if you trip over yourself: Stop, repeat, back up, take questions, etc.
- Try not to read from notes or slides; takes the life and engagement out of the talk
- People can only do one thing at a time - listen or read
- Practice: Record yourself every time you practice and watch it; focus on blocking and tackling
- You have about 45 seconds to grab people's interest before they look at their phone; get them engaged via a story, picture, or anecdote

**Links:**

- [Matty Stratton’s Presentations](https://noti.st/mattstratton)
- [Matty Stratton on Twitter](https://twitter.com/mattstratton)
- [PagerDuty](https://www.pagerduty.com/)
- [Arrested DevOps](https://www.arresteddevops.com/host/matt/)
- [Hot Takes, Myths, And Fake News—Why Everyone Is Wrong About DevOps, Except For Me](https://noti.st/mattstratton/tVafyE)
- [DevOps Dispatch](http://devopsdispatch.com/)
- [LastWeekinAWS](https://lastweekinaws.com/)
- [Jez Humble](https://twitter.com/jezhumble)
- [Robert Rodriguez](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001675/)
- [Rebel Without A Crew](https://www.amazon.com/Rebel-without-Crew-23-Year-Old-Filmmaker/dp/0452271878)
- [Adam Jacob from Chef](https://blog.chef.io/author/adam/)
- [Terrible Ideas in Git](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya5ZSNGl3G4)
- [Azure DevOps](https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/devops/)
- [Emily Freeman](https://www.devopsdays.org/events/2018-indianapolis/program/emily-freeman/)
- [Decker Communications](https://decker.com/)
- [Don't You Know Who I Am?!](https://www.usenix.org/conference/lisa17/conference-program/presentation/quinn)
- [Datadog](https://www.datadoghq.com/ts/tshirt-landingpage/?utm_source=Advertisement&utm_medium=Advertisement&utm_campaign=ScreamingintheCloud-PodcastTshirt)

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